http://www.willthomas.net/911/911_Commission.htm

Despite many unheeded warnings, says the US victims’ Families Steering Committee (FSC), “Our country should have been able to defend itself from an air attack. One cause may have been the deviations from normal hijacking protocols by the FAA and NORAD. Standard intercept protocols were fatally delayed.”

Another problem cited by the FSC and my audio book, Stand Down, is that the acting head of the Joint Chief of Staff gave orders not to be interrupted from a routine meeting on the Hill. General Myers was not notified that the country he was in charge of defending was under attack – until the last strike on the Pentagon was carried out.

Stand Down and the FSC also point out that numerous military exercises held on Sept. 11 ensured that “mass confusion ensued when these exercises coincided with the terrorist attacks.”

The commission also failed to ask why 9 of the alleged hijackers pulled aside and questioned for suspicious ID and other irregularities were allowed to board their flights.
[FSC]
2. Did the 911 Commission receive full cooperation from NORAD and the FAA?

On the contrary, the 911 commissions investigating the Sept. 11 attacks was forced to issue subpoenas to both government agencies. Members of the 10-member panel complained that they had encountered "serious delays" in obtaining information from the Defense Department. "We are especially dismayed by problems in the production of the records of activities of NORAD and certain Air Force commands on Sept. 11," the panel reported. [New York Times Nov8/03]

A second subpoena served on the Pentagon was similarly unsuccessful in attaining records concerning whether NORAD responded quickly enough in dispatching interceptors on Sept. 11. [Washington Post Nov8/03]

Because of what the Pentagon calls, “bizarre coincidence,” on Sept. 11, 2001 NORAD was three days into Operation Vigilant Guardian. Held twice a year to tweak NORAD’s continent-spanning surveillance and interception web, North American air defenses that morning were aggressively alert and battle staffed, with key officers needed to make immediate decisions stationed in the "battle cabs" of each interlinked US Air Force command post.

The same officers were also perfectly placed to issue orders blocking US air defenses. According to the FSC and other sources, some air bases and military pilots pleading for orders to intercept the developing attacks were told to stand down.

Kike 11 : Jew World Order

SEIG HEIL!

I don't know if anyone has posted it here yet, but here is the link to the updated version of "9/11 Revisited" which Linder started this thread off with:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PWgSaBT9hNU

It includes several more videotaped witness statements and adds other footage as well.

Interesting site which gives a balanced view of how it all came down (literally) while also slamming Israel.

http://www.geocities.com/factsnotfantasy/ExplosivesDebunked.html

Some of you people might do well to read it.

Interesting site which gives a balanced view of how it all came down (literally) while also slamming Israel.

http://www.geocities.com/factsnotfantasy/ExplosivesDebunked.html

Some of you people might do well to read it.

Your site repeats the lie that the jet fuel, paper, and furniture produced a raging inferno which severely weakened the steel.

Key findings include:

* Floor sagging and exposure to high temperatures caused the perimeter columns to bow inward and buckleâ&#8364]there was enough office furniture to sustain intense fires for at least an hour.
* The original builders of the twin towers and those who later renovated the structures did not have a clear technical standard for deciding on how much insulation to use around the structural beams, many of which gave way in the intense heat.

Also, it creates a straw-man demolition argument.

Scientists investigating the Sept. 11, 2001 collapse of the twin towers said, "the World Trade Center towers showed telltale signs they were about to collapse several minutes before each crumbled to the ground." There would not be telltale signs if it was explosives (Controlled Demolition) that caused the buildings to collapse.

The witness statements clearly indicate that there were secondary explosions immediately after the plane impacts (and some minutes later) - both at the top and at the bottom of the towers, which could certainly cause visible buckling if some of the core columns were cut.

You'll have to try harder than that. :box:

Your site repeats the lie that the jet fuel, paper, and furniture produced a raging inferno which severely weakened the steel.

Also, it creates a straw-man demolition argument.

The witness statements clearly indicate that there were secondary explosions immediately after the plane impacts (and some minutes later) - both at the top and at the bottom of the towers, which could certainly cause visible buckling if some of the core columns were cut.

You'll have to try harder than that. :box:

Sure, I'll give it a try. If there "were secondary explosions immediately after the plane impacts", why didn't the buildings collapse immediately after the plane impacts and "secondary explosions"?

This is what Wikipedia has to say about the motive for the 9-11 attacks.

[color="Blue"]According to official U.S. government sources, the September 11th attacks were consistent with the mission statement of al-Qaeda. The group's involvement in the bombing of American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania is widely suspected, and al-Qaeda had declared responsibility for the 2000 USS Cole bombing in Yemen.

The motivation for this campaign was set out in a 1998 fatwa issued by Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Abu-Yasir Rifa'i Ahmad Taha, Shaykh Mir Hamzah, and Fazlur Rahman (Amir of the Jihad Movement in Bangladesh, Fazlur Rahman).[16] The fatwa lists three so-called "crimes and sins committed by the Americans":

U.S. occupation of the Arabian Peninsula.
U.S. aggression against the Iraqi people.
[color="Red"]U.S. support of Israel.

The fatwa states that the United States:

Plunders the resources of the Arabian Peninsula.
Dictates policy to the rulers of those countries.
Supports abusive regimes and monarchies in the Middle East, thereby oppressing their people.
Has military bases and installations upon the Arabian Peninsula, which violates the Muslim holy land, in order to threaten neighboring Muslim countries.
Intends thereby to create disunion between Muslim states, thus weakening them as a political force.
Supports Israel, and wishes to divert international attention from (and tacitly maintain) the occupation of Palestine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_attacks

Can't admit that sand niggers could have the brains and [color="Red"][color="red"]balls to strike back at their tormentors?

If there "were secondary explosions immediately after the plane impacts", why didn't the buildings collapse immediately after the plane impacts and "secondary explosions"?

There is NO IF. THERE WERE multiple explosions independent of the airplane impacts. Many witness statements show that. The reason why the entire building didn't collapse then is beause the rest of the buildings' structure was still intact - i.e. the rest of the explosives hadn't yet detonated.

Can't admit that sand niggers could have the brains and [color="Red"][color="red"]balls to strike back at their tormentors?

Can't you admit that the witnesses to the explosions could be telling the truth?

Can't admit that sand niggers could have the brains and [color="Red"][color="red"]balls to strike back at their tormentors?

Their tormentors are jews and neo-cons, not firefighters.

This is clearly a hoax, fabricated to use as a pretext for war.

There is NO IF. THERE WERE multiple explosions independent of the airplane impacts. Many witness statements show that. Can't you admit that the witnesses to the explosions could be telling the truth?

It's not that he can't, he won't. He'll ignore the countless hundreds of eyewitness accounts and resort back to 'I saw it with my own eyes' (From miles away) These clowns are here to waste our time to disrupt speculation that the executive government of the United States has, since the 'election' of G W Bush, been in criminal hands and that it was the principal architect of the mass murder of 3,000 Persons on 911.

That's the guts of what we're discussing here. Some of us have expended considerable energy trying to figure out the how and why of it, but in essence we're talking about the American Government having been taken over by criminals, The main players are jews with a few treasonous non-jewish puppets as front men.

Getting fizz and his stooges to admit this is like pissing in the wind, a complete waste of time. Some time ago there was a remark that these bastards are probably posting from within their little dog box offices of the ADL.

For those interested, it occured to me to have a look at the 'unofficial Charlie Sheen' web site. You should SEE the enormous, overwhelming commentary supporting his stance in the forum part of the site.

Google it and have a peek.

Right you ae, Bernie! My sentiments, exaclty. I don't bother to read ANY posts by that crowd anymore - time to move on and not waste time with detractors, idiots, stubborn contrarians, and sneaky jews (if there are any of those hanging around here).

I will go check out the Sheen website you mentioned, but, before I do, I have reservations which I can't explain about what's going on with the alexjones, noorie, non-jew-naming anti-bush crowd. We even got a jew named Webster Tarply slamming hard on 911 and pointing the finger at Silverstein.

Makes me feel uneasy because I just don't trust these jews - they are always up to some kind of devious tricks and then you get the ole' switcheroo when it is too late.

I just don't trust jews, or whites who won't NAME THE JEW!

I will go check out the Sheen website you mentioned, but, before I do, I have reservations which I can't explain about what's going on with the alexjones, noorie, non-jew-naming anti-bush crowd. We even got a jew named Webster Tarply slamming hard on 911 and pointing the finger at Silverstein.

Just slow some of them.

But there's damage control to consider. There's got to be a ton of Jews who know things can go the wrong way -- if it does, what's the line of retreat?

Something like make an opposition you can control to minimize the mess. That's why there are antizionist Jews like Henry Makow and Israel Shamir, even if they are not in the loop. They'll be useful when the ceiling drops.

TOTAL EXPOSURE of America's zionist puppet masters, starting with the neocons, would be a disaster for every Jew on Earth. Their logical fallback would be, "Yeah, like me and my good pal Israel Shamir were saying..."

That might not be exactly right. But something along those lines.

ps: Had no idea Web Tarply was a Jew. Interesting if true.

It's not that he can't, he won't. He'll ignore the countless hundreds of eyewitness accounts and resort back to 'I saw it with my own eyes' (From miles away)...

Getting fizz and his stooges to admit this is like pissing in the wind, a complete waste of time. Some time ago there was a remark that these bastards are probably posting from within their little dog box offices of the ADL.

I realize that they aren't ever going to come around to our side.

They do pop up occasionally with a "new" claim though, and it only takes a few minutes to thoroughly destroy their arguments. We have utterly trounced them by responding with facts and logic.

Now the question is: How do we best get the word out so that the average citizen wakes up from this nightmare?

here is what I posted over at the unofficial Charlie Sheen forum and it went through.

There is this form called vnnforum.com they are having some real heated conversations over there and excellent video. This forum is uncensored and not really for those who do not want to venture into the truth or any hard blunt free speech on this suject. There is not alot of cussing just the uncensored facts.

There is not alot of cussing just the uncensored facts.

LOL.

here is what I posted over at the unofficial Charlie Sheen forum and it went through. "There is this form called vnnforum.com they are having some real heated conversations over there and excellent video".

What a great idea!!

That's what I'll do in a few seconds. The people who post there are kind of the leading edge of the slightly suspicious sheeple, forgive me for putting in that way. I think if we can get these sort of people looking at the VNN thread and they GET TO SEE we'll get a snowball effect.